EMDR therapy for PTSD

Anon Imperfect Mum

EMDR therapy for PTSD

Hi just came across this method.

I am very tempted to try it. Has anyone tried it and did it help with processing traumatic memories? (Ongoing abuse. DV.)

Also how much and would medicare cover this therapy? Hoping so. I am feeling positive.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

All research shows it to be VERY effective particularly for those who have incredible difficulty disclosing details.

It has been recommended for me because I have anxiety induced asthma attacks when I discuss related events. Few professionals even have the basic details.

I cant do more than mindfulness and CBT. ..ie. trauma counselling until the response is addressed or I could stop breathing in the process.

The problem is locating providers I haven't found one yet besides going private which I can't afford.

I dont think it's a medicare issue....I think the problem is it isnt a method many psychologists are trained in providing....mindfulness dbt and CBT are the most common. Let's hope many see its worth and add it to their offering.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

EMDR therapy is considered a first-line treatment by organizations such as ISTSS (International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies), the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the Department of Veteran Affairs, the Department of Defense, the Departments of Health in Northern Ireland, UK, Israel, the Netherlands, France, and other countries and organizations. There are 35 randomized controlled (and 20 nonrandomized) studies that have been conducted on EMDR therapy in the treatment of trauma to date. A randomized controlled study means that the placebo effect is controlled for - i.e. EMDR therapy is NOT a placebo effect. And more excellent research now on the role of eye movements, mechanism of action, and other Randomized Controlled Studies, not only on trauma and PTSD, but also on the use of EMDR therapy with generalized anxiety disorder, treatment of distressful experiences that fail to meet the criteria for PTSD, dental phobia, depression, body dysmorphic disorder, chronic phantom limb pain, panic disorder with agoraphobia, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and peer verbal abuse.

The World Health Organization has published Guidelines for the management of conditions that are specifically related to stress: Trauma-focused CBT and EMDR are the only therapies recommended for children, adolescents and adults with PTSD. "Like CBT with a trauma focus, EMDR therapy aims to reduce subjective distress and strengthen adaptive cognitions related to the traumatic event. Unlike CBT with a trauma focus, EMDR does not involve (a) detailed descriptions of the event, (b) direct challenging of beliefs, (c) extended exposure, or (d) homework." (Geneva, WHO, 2013)

As a recently retired psychologist, I used EMDR therapy as my primary psychotherapy treatment and I've also personally had EMDR therapy for anxiety, panic, grief, and “small t” trauma. As a client, EMDR worked extremely well and also really fast. As an EMDR therapist, and in my (now retired) role as a facilitator who trained other therapists in EMDR therapy (certified by the EMDR International Association and trained by the EMDR Institute, both of which I strongly recommend in an EMDR therapist) I have used EMDR therapy successfully with panic disorders, PTSD, anxiety, depression, grief, body image, phobias, distressing memories, bad dreams, and many other problems. It's a very gentle method with no significant "down-side" so that in the hands of a professional EMDR therapist, there should be no freak-outs or worsening of day-to-day functioning.

One of the initial EMDR therapy phases (Phase 2) involves preparing for memory processing or desensitization (memory processing or desensitization - phases 3-6 - is often what is referred to as "EMDR" which is actually an 8-phase method of psychotherapy). In this phase resources are "front-loaded" so that you have a "floor" or "container" to help with processing the really hard stuff, as well as creating strategies if you're triggered in everyday life. In Phase 2 you learn a lot of great coping strategies and self-soothing techniques which you can use during EMDR processing or anytime you feel the need.

In phase 2 you learn how to access a “Safe or Calm Place” which you can use at ANY TIME during EMDR processing (or on your own) if it feels scary, or too emotional, too intense. One of the key assets of EMDR therapy is that YOU, the client, are in control NOW, even though you weren’t in the past, during traumatic events, or whatever disturbance(s) on which you’re working. You NEVER need re-live an experience or go into great detail, ever! You NEVER need to go through the entire memory. YOU can decide to keep the lights (or the alternating sounds and/or tactile pulsars, or the waving hand, or any method of bilateral stimulation that feels okay to you) going, or stop them, whichever helps titrate – measure and adjust the balance or “dose“ of the processing. During EMDR processing there are regular “breaks” and you can control when and how many but the therapist should be stopping the bilateral stimulation every 25-50 passes of the lights to ask you to take a deep breath and say just a bit of what you’re noticing, anything different, any changes. (The stimulation should not be kept on continuously, because there are specific procedures that need to be followed to process the memory). The breaks help keep a “foot in the present” while you’re processing the past. Again, and I can’t say this enough, YOU ARE IN CHARGE so YOU can make the process tolerable. And your therapist should be experienced in the EMDR therapy techniques that help make it the gentlest and safest way to detoxify bad life experiences and build resources.

Grounding exercises are essential. You can use some of the techniques in Dr. Shapiro's new book "Getting Past Your Past: Take Control of Your Life with Self-Help Techniques from EMDR." Dr. Shapiro is the founder/creator of EMDR but all the proceeds from the book go to two charities: the EMDR Humanitarian Assistance Program and the EMDR Research Foundation). The book is an easy read, helps you understand what's "pushing" your feelings and behavior, helps you connect the dots from past experiences to current life. Also gives lots of really helpful ways that are used during EMDR therapy to calm disturbing thoughts and feelings.

Pacing and dosing are critically important. So if you ever feel that EMDR processing is too intense then it might be time to go back over all the resources that should be used both IN session and BETWEEN sessions.

I can't say enough good things about EMDR therapy. It's changed my life both as a person/consumer, and as a therapist. It has been so satisfying to have someone come in for help and then to witness them get through their issues and finish therapy relatively quickly (compared to regular talk therapy, it's like night and day). I am both humbled by and grateful for this wonderful method that heals suffering.

To find an EMDR therapist in your area, go to: http://emdria.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=2337 and check YES on the Approved Consultant Status for the most experienced therapist. Medicare, and every insurance, covers EMDR therapy because therapists do not designate which method of psychotherapy they use - for example, no therapist would say "psychodynamic" or "CBT" as the psychotherapy. There is only one insurance code for an individual session of psychotherapy (and another for an extended session).

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Do you have ptsd? Or been referred for emdr?

Did you read what you posted? The register is US only.

I'm wondering do you have a bot that trolls google for forum references for emdr and copy and paste all that. 50% of the detail is barely relevant the jargon is beyond most people who haven't studied psychology. The WHO recommendation is a copy and paste.....and entirely superfluous at this level of conversation.

This is an Australian Domain! Maybe exclude it from your bots search.

I'm really sorry you got spammed anonymous US psychologists in private practice do it all the time to stir up customers....and I mean ALL the time.....everywhere. they want to come across as caring but its seriously insensitive and obnoxious.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Found a search for australia

Sigmund Burzynski
Geelong
3220
Australia

Lacey D. Clews
Canberra
Australian Capital Territory
2603
Australia

Dr Karen Klockner
Nerang
Queensland
4211
Australia

Peter A. Pinney
KYNETON
Victoria
3444
Australia

Bozica Stumfol Ms
KEDRON
Queensland
4031
Australia

The sum total of specialists listed with that group in the country.....ask your GP to refer it should be covered under better access with a care plan....and somewhere there would actually be a decent list. I know there are more than this.

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