Over the last few days there has been afew posts asking for advice about weight loss medications and surgery. I was very disappointed to see the majority of responses saying things along the line of 'focus on nutrition and exercise! Medication/surgery is only a quick fix'.
Ladies we don't know the posters medical history. It's not fair to just assume they haven't already done those things! Diet and exercise DOES NOT WORK for all women. If their GP has recommended something else we shouldn't judge and belittle.
I'm on duromine and I don't even lose weight on it. It literally just stops me gaining weight until Wegovy is here and I can try that. My GP has said I am a prime example of the fact the diet and exercise are not the only things involved. For context - I eat a very healthy and balanced diet - approved by a dietician and my GP. I keep a food diary and included all condiments (if any) so nothing is getting missed. I also exercise daily, more than you would expect because I work outdoors and spent 3 - 6 hours daily bushwalking, canoeing, etc. It doesn't matter if I'm eating 1200 calories or 2800. I will still gain weight. It's genetic and metabolic.
Let's just be kind to each other and only comment if we have something helpful or positive to add! Just because you can lose weight in calorie deficit it doesn't mean everyone can. Obnoxiously assuming that someone else is just stupid or lying only isolates women and stops them seeking help.
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Diet is the number 1 reason for weight issues . A GP will always bring up diet 100% of the time as it's almost always the main cause of weight issues.
Your duromine is probably too low a dose, and in the long term it's a fact that it doesn't work.
I have 6 family members and friends who had barbaric surgery and half gained their weight back plus more.
The best treatment for weight control is diet in conjunction with whatever else your Dr recommends and if Dr isn't bringing up diet, he/she not doing their job. If you have metabolic issues, it ads to it, for sure. But even with metabolic issues and those on medication, diet will still help weight loss occur.
Eating in a calorie deficit is important for weight loss.
I am eating in calorie deficit. And will still gain weight. Your comment is exactly the type of comment I am referring to. Comments like this only make people who are struggling feels worse.
No meed to sulk and being so offended you clearly aren't eating in a deficit. It's impossible.
Clearly you have never been in this position. It is possible. My GP, dietician and personal trainer are all working together. This is a medical issue and not diet and exercise which is my whole point.
I can eat 1500 calories a day and gain weight. I can eat 1200 calories a day and gain weight. I can eat 1000 calories a day and gain weight. I can eat 800 calories a day and gain weight. My metabolism just drops to meet me
What you think is a healthy and balanced diet may not be. All Fruits and over half of vegetables contain sugar. Even milk is very high is carbs . Contrary to what we are taught, the body cannot distinguish between which sugar is which once it enters the body. Sugar is sugar is sugar. Natural or refined. Intermittent fasting works wonders. The food triangle is also outdated and entirely wrong. Your body may also not need the same amount of food as someone else. You'll be surprised where all your calories and carbs are coming from.
Again - this is exactly the type of comment I am referring to. My diet is not the issue. Yes I know exactly where calories and carbs are coming from. I don't eat any fruit and I don't eat vegetables that are high in carbs. My dr and I know exactly what food is going into my body and 100% know that is not the cause of weight gain.
Comments like this only make women feel worse.
Hey. If you know exactly what's going on, don't get on here looking for a fight. A lot of the advice you're getting on here is what our own doctors would say to us. It's time you found a new one . Stop blaming us. Put the blame where it belongs ... on your food intake 'first'.
The whole point of my post is that weight isn't always about food intake. There are so many other reasons women struggle to lose weight and comments like this belittle and make those women feel helpless. There is nothing wrong with my dr. As I'm sure there is nothing wrong with the drs of the other women who has asked about other methods. Women need to just back of and only say something if it's going to be supportive.
I just looked over these posts and of course, there's always a couple of trolls. But, mostly it's people saying it didn't work for them & then what did, like you'd expect in an f2f conversation. OP is free to use it, or not.
I know when I asked in a different forum about a migraine drug my GP & pain doc recommended, the negative responses sent me off to do further research. I was horrified by what I found.
I considered the alternatives people online had offered, unsolicited, and one is working. No drugs. So I am grateful and have done the same information offering when asked. Some have even said thank you.
As for diet, I'm discovering I'm eating all wrong and portion sizes a bit too big. I don't eat junk food & limit sugar. I thought I was doing well & diet couldn't be causing my weight gain. But it was!!
Exactly. All the wrong portion sizes. It's not hard to stop lying to ourselves if we're looking for it in our consumptions. Maybe OP will start keeping a food diary to see what's really adding up. I think her Dr just agrees with her because she's agitated when she sees him and won't accept his dietry advice as she's tried to convince him it's not her food choices, so to avoid upsetting his patient, he just agrees with her
OP does keep a food diary! What is your actual problem? You don't know anything about my journey or my Dr
You're getting on here blaming women on IM for your feelings! Deal with your emotions graciously. Accept it and move along. You could probably do with some councilling as complaining by blaming others' is the wrong attitude. You're very distressed by your position, so if you and your care givers' understand your issues, that's all you need to accept. Don't want opinions and options? Then don't share your weight complaints because you clearly don't like the answers when women on here have tried to help.
I'm not at all distressed by my position because I know I am doing everything I can and I have support from my medical team. I'm simply calling out others for fat phobic remarks and fat shaming, which could be causing significant distress to other posters.
The other posts I was referring to in my original comment were not mine. Comments on those those were just as insensitive and blaming as your have been. Perhaps you are the one who needs counselling to identify why you feel the need to shame other women when they call you out for being insensitive
Only insensitive person is you. No one on here has called you a lazy fat cow. Now then that would be insensitive wouldn't it?