Hi Sisters! I'm just wanting to know signs of someone using ice. I do want to know for someone close to me but I thought others could learn too if they've not had much experience with people using it. I know what it looks like when someone is fully on it with their jaw movements and body movements and the massive come downs thanks to an old neighbour but I would like to recognize it before it gets to that stage.
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Talking too much about something but very convincing and going into to much detail about a certain place or what they were doing or where they are going. Explaining way too much than they actually need to. Jittery, touching their face regularly. Dry mouth, moving their feet and unable to Stand still. Mouth movements are different. Talking 100 miles an hour. Awake all night. Outbursts and anger. Jumpy happy like too happy to convince you that they aren’t on anything.
There is so many signs and everyone is different but these are the ones that I notice on people I know. Crack pipes hidden, under seats in car, boot, shoes, anywhere really but mostly things get left in cars or shed when they are trying to hide things or anywhere else really.
More subtle signs of what you have mentioned. Not as obvious but the subtle signs are all there.
My ex was on ice and half the time you couldn’t really tell. He became obsessed with games in his phone, playing for hours to keep his mind active. Not sleeping much but then sleeping way to much (coming down). He was able to hold down a job, he was able to eat meals at night (likely not much during the day though). He’d have to ‘duck out’ in the mornings (usually saying he felt like Maccas coffee) and that 10min trio always took closer to 25-30mins. Directly after that, he’d talk like an excited toddler or decide to mow the lawn, clean the windows, clean the concrete 😂 I laugh cause while we were together and he was using I had the cleanest windows in the street 😂 it really depends on the person and their level of abuse.
This!
There are so many high functioning addicts in professional positions. There are also many people who may act or look like they're an addict but are not. Everyone is different and it would be dependent on the person, changes in their behaviour or looks or routine etc with unexplainable reasons (changes because of mental health without addiction taken into account).
I have been in this situation and I know way more about this than I care to admit. I have never used ice and will never touch it as long as my ass points to the ground. It was the total demise of my marriage and took away my daughters chance at a together family. I’ll never understand why but the cycle for me started with payday… all is right in the world with a positive outlook on life again knowing he was “getting on it”. Then 2 days of no sleep and tinkering with anything he could find (mower, boat, car, hell all of those in a night). Hourly visits to the toilet and in there for about 20 mins at a time. You can’t smell ice so it’s done anywhere anytime. Followed by 2-3 days of horrendous comedown… I’m talking horrible outbursts and no amount of walking on eggshells ever cut it. I am a patient person and don’t do conflict well. He would follow me from room to room and then block me from leaving. Even if I had to be up at 4:45 for a 10-12 hour day at work. There was no getting away… a tirade of insane and paranoid accusations and abuse. If you have to ask ice is involved there is only 1 single way out. Well planned and safely. There is no hope as long as ice is in their system. Even if they stop they don’t function and are not ever the same person again. If I saw this again I’d not hesitate to call it a wrap and be out faster than they can beg or argue for me to stay… last words I said after leaving was “you did this off your guts and don’t remember… I was stone cold sober and you took me down with you”. This was not the hard part believe it or not. Then there was the separation… heavy police involvement (DVO with 18 breeches), jail sentences and court proceedings both criminally and to do with family law. Almost a decade of just about every abuse there is.