Dishonesty, omission and trust with teens.

Anon Imperfect Mum

Dishonesty, omission and trust with teens.

I'm having some issues with my almost 13 year old daughter and her being sneaky. I apologise in advance as this will be a bit of a novel.

There has been many instances where she hasn't been completely transparent with me.

Some examples:

Last school holidays I allowed her meet with her friend to our local shopping centre for some lunch and then they would bus home together. That shopping centre is a 6 minute drive from our house so I was fine with that as I'm close by in case she needed anything. I dropped her off and told her what bus I expected her home on.
She was home on time but I found out later that they actually took the bus into the city after I left (which is half an hour away from home and not really a safe place for two 12/13 year old girls to be roaming).
Her argument is that because I didn't explicitly tell her not to go into the city she wasn't in the wrong but I see this as dishonesty.

The next example - a few weeks ago she asked me if a new friend of hers (who I'll call Sally) could come hang out at our place on a Friday after school. I told her that was absolutely fine, as long as she checks in with me first she can bring any of her friends over whenever she likes (and the friends need to let their parents know where they are as well). We arranged it, checked with her parents etc.
The day came and she rang me at 3.05 and said "we're just going to walk to Annie's (another friend I already know) then we will come home".
Ok that's fine.
An hour later she walks in the door with two girls I don't know and the girl she was supposed to be with was no where to be seen. I panic momentarily because I hadn't heard from this girls mum so for all I knew she assumed her daughter was safe at our house. It turns out Sally was sick and had texted my daughter that she couldn't come.
So my daughter thought she'd just hang with different friends instead. She didn't think she did anything wrong in that scenario because she rang me and told me where she was going but I think that's sneaky because when she said "we" she made it sound like she was with Sally and not two girls I didn't know from Adam (who are also older).

Now yesterday, she rang me after school and asked if she could go to Annie's house. That's something she does regularly and Annie only lives a few minutes away from us. So I said yes.
It slipped out later that Annie hadn't actually been at school this day because she had covid/flu symptoms. So another situation where I'm not getting all the details.

She's often late home or isn't where she said she would be. Eg she'll ask to go to the servo or park, implying she'll go to the ones at the end of our street but will then walk to the ones 10 minutes away.

Her reasoning is that she doesn't ask me or tell me the whole story because she knows I'll say no, so there's no point asking which to be fair is probably right.
I wouldn't have let her go to the city and I wouldn't have let her go to Annie's if I'd known she was sick.
Though I would have let her other friends come over in scenario two so I'm not sure what drove her dishonesty that day.

She's always been the type of kid that asks for forgiveness after the fact rather than asking permission initially.
She's also the type of kid who will take a mile when given an inch.
She also really struggles with taking accountability, that's something I'm really big on. All I expect of my kids is to be able to own their mistakes but with my daughter it's always someone else's fault. Eg, I told her off for swearing the other day and she said "Blame dad, that's where I learned it"
I would say she's definitely the most rebellious and non compliant of all my children, so this is kind of uncharted territory for me.

She has faced consequences every time this happens and she's sick of being in trouble but she continues doing the same thing. I should add she is never punished for being truthful.

We have had so many talks about trust and how important it is that I know where she is and who she's with. I've also promised her that I'll be a little more open minded so she feels like she can ask me to do things or give me the full story but if it's something inapropriate or unsafe, I have to say no.
She still just doesn't seem to be getting it!

She's at the age she needs some independence and I don't think my boundaries are unreasonable, so for now she's not allowed to go anywhere unless it's pre planned and supervised but I also don't feel like that's a good long term solution. I can't keep her home indefinitely.

Any insight and advice would be very appreciated.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Is there consequences when she is dishonest?

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