How do I deal with my friend without losing the friendship?
My friend has a very high expectation of others, from very small expectations to very large.
It started off small, normal things that i’d do for anyone like bringing her a coffee because i’m grabbing myself one anyway, or saying i’m at the supermarket do you want anything etc.
I started to find if I went to the shopping centre and didn’t go out of my way to offer anything i’d get passive aggressive comments such as “thanks for letting me know you were going” or “where’s my coffee woman”
It then became really regular, i’d cook a meal and she would ask me to save a plate... no biggie but happens all the time. Can I borrow an outfit then not return for months, can I borrow your car (she has a car but likes mine better) can I host my tupperware party at your house, can i borrow.... borrow.... borrow she also i might add does not look after things she borrows. She borrows money from everyone because she simply lives outside her means, she doesn’t pay on the promised day, you have to cha d her up.
Then there’s the babysitter thing, she always and i mean always wants everyone to watch her kids,not just for an hour, it’s always overnight. Ordinarily wouldn’t be an issue but her kids are literally born from hell fire... I dread being around them, all of our friends do. I’ve had so many things broken out of pure disrespect, the rudeness out of their mouths makes it impossible to like them. She doesn’t like anyone telling them off, I have yelled at them in front of her twice, she took it on the chin but she didn’t like it at all.
She is very materialistic, will bitch about a birthday present that a friend got her, nothing is ever good enough. She also takes so much of everyone’s time, she knows everyone’s roster, if we have a day off she wants us to drive her around to do really expensive things that are out of most people’s reach. If I say i’m having a day on the couch (i work 7 days on 2 off plus i’m a single mum to 2 young girls) she makes comments that i’m slack, or that i’m not living my best life.
Her whole life is face book and instagram, she knows everything about everyone. she’s very much about the perfect front so everyone sees she’s ‘living her best life’
The competitive parenting is so unhealthy, to the point that her children get angry or emotional if another kid preforms better at a particular task.
And now, here’s where i’m getting upset... she’s begun to lie about things, one thing in particular is a fraud that will end in financial gain. There’s no reason for it other than greed, she thinks I don’t know but i overheard something she said to her husband.
Now most people would just say end the friendship, I’m not in the habit of ditching people, and if everyone ditched her that was annoyed by her, she would have no one. I realise I’ve painted a dim picture but this is the bad stuff. She also has a very supportive, fun and loving side.
It really is the selfish princess complex here that’s starting to take a large toll on our friendship group.
I’ll add that we have tried talking, tact isn’t my strong point, I always make her cry. Please give me pointers on how to make this stop without me telling her to F#%k off.
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Back off. You need a break and it will give her some time to reflect hopefully without You actually having to say anything.
And then start small, just chats. Small meetings out and about- don't bring anything, just handle yourself and get yourself there and if she can't, just do it another time. Set boundaries and watch what happens. Either things will change or you will realise you don't get much out of it but she still takes from you regardless.
I think your friend is my ex SIL. Literally just described her. I stayed friends with her after I broke up with my ex but I got sick of the constant neediness and babysitting for her. Her child was exactly like your friends child but she would always make a mountain out of my kids bad behaviour but completely ignored her own. Her childs milestones were a competitive sport. It got too much and I realised I was being used, there was nothing in the friendship that was for my benefit, it was all about her and her child. Just start saying no to her and see if she is still your best mate when you're not constantly giving in to her, chances are she won't be.
Start asking of her what she asks of you. Borrow her car, borrow money, ask her to babysit for the night. She will likely say no then it will be too awkward for her to keep asking you for stuff.
The only way to remain friends is to set firm boundaries and stand up to her.
Say no, stop letting her use you. Stop lending her money etc. say no. If she asks why you can say ‘it’s not convenient at this time’.
The things she is asking of you are not normal in friendships. Jeez my own sisters wouldn’t expect me to do what you do for your friend.
You say no, to what you don’t want to do, and it’s up to her if she maintains the friendship based on the new rules.
If she pots out of the friendship, then she wasn’t really your friend, she was using you.
I think you've allowed her to take advantage of you for far too long, you need to start saying no!!
No, I'm not in the position to babysit your kids over night at the moment, sorry.
No, you can't borrow my car. I need it, you'll have to use your own!
Sorry, i dont have the time to be hosting 'parties' at my place anymore. Let me know when you're throwing it at your place and I'll be there.
Sorry, I'm not lending clothes etc to people anymore, I dont get things back or they come back damaged.
No, sorry. I can't do X activity with you, I can't justify the price. You have fun though.
No, i can't be all day. I have other things to do, so I have X amount of of time if you want to grab a quick coffee?
No, I'm tired, i need a chill day. Maybe I'm not "living my best life" but I'm good with that haha.
Where's my coffee?
Oh, did you need directions to Starbucks??
Thanks for letting me know...
Sorry mate, i just wanted to get in and out. I don't mind helping you out occasionally but I'm not a delivery lady!
Not sure I'd bother with the fraud thing since she doesn't know you know but if her lies begin to affect you, call her out on it!
There's no balance in this friendship so you need to draw the line sometimes.
She sounds like a narcissist, honestly, she’ll end up draining all the life out of you.
Answer this, how do you feel after spending time with her?
You’re not ready, I understand, but you will reach your point, some of us take longer than others.
I also noticed in your post that you were constantly justifying/explaining yourself when you didn’t do the ludicrous outrageous things she wanted, it shows me you have already been sucked into her vortex.
As a bystander, her demands are insane, if that helps you see the light.
Good luck, you sound like a lovely person, that’s how they get away with it ❤️
Yep. You need to say no. Does she live with you? That's the only reason I see her asking for a plate of your dinner. But just explain you're budgeting and cutting costs re coffee etc. Say part of your budget is having leftovers as your lunch. Say you promised a mummy daughter night and can't have her kids, or that your husband wants a family night. Or that you're tired. If you want a quiet day, say so. If she says you're not living the best life, say that having some down time is actually something that you really value and helps you keep balance with work and kids. Don't loan money. Say sorry, you have bills and it's all accounted for. If she gets cranky, tell her that she isn't being fair.
I'm going through something similar. Not as bad as that but seems to be getting worse all the time. And they don't seem to realise the level of stuff they ask for on a regular basis. Like they think they are just simple things to do when that is actually not always the case. The costs build up. Not just physical but cost of time as well as emotional cost. It's a tough situation to navigate as you love them and want to help but you also enable them to stay in that pattern or frame of mind. That they need others to do them favours to function. Like there are no other options but for people to help them when there are ways they don't attempt because they either don't feel like it or think it's too hard. And then start the guilt trips if you can't help or have to change the plan even due to an emergency or other personal reason. Recently my friend accused me of never helping her. When I've spent the last 12 years of my life doing exactly that. And especially the last 6 months. Budgeting for her. Taking her from place to place for free. Paying for her things. Lending her money. Straight out giving her money. Being there night and day for her. Which at one point was basically full time work, as I would come home and get dinner for my family then go back out til she went to bed. Then come back and fall asleep and back I'd go the next day. So yeah it didn't go down well when she said I don't help her. Pretty sure she still doesn't agree that she can help herself more than she does. She usually throws her hands in the air and says it's impossible to do by herself or she cant. 🤦 I don't even have on my plate what you have on yours and I find it exhausting at times. More and more so lately. I'm trying to be a bit firmer myself but I feel seemingly as you do, that I'm not built to let people down or say no. I know I need much stronger boundaries! I think for me I do it because I don't have any other friends and it's the price I pay to have just one person who I feel cares about me. Paradox is that really it's actually more toxic than a friendship anyway. I'm just hoping I can help get her to the level she's independent then she will be able to have her life and I can have mine. Certainly can't do this forever. Totally know the feeling xxx