Hi Baby Mamas! Sorry, this is long. Please bear with me, I want to make this very clear.
Im finding now that my ex husband is in a new relationship (we both are) that he is so unreasonable. When we're both single, we get along fine. No dramas. We actually talk, laugh and have a good relationship. When he's in a relationship (this is his 4th, my 1st since splitting) he's just an arsehole. He found out I was in a new relationship, met a girl on tinder that same day and it was relationship official within that week and he was back to his old ways again. He actually called me to tell me he had another girlfriend, a serious one this time. I said "Thats good. Good for you, as long as you're happy and she's good with the boys, im happy". It all went downhill from there.
He has our boys one night a week, if that. Sometimes not at all. No parenting plan, im happy to go with the flow and whatever works. Im very easy going, have never denied him access (I left him because he is very angry, aggressive, violent and abusive in front of the kids) and I make things as easy as possible to ensure things run smoothly. Quite frankly, I cant stand the prick but its easier to be civil because it means I have less to do with him.
If he cant afford child support one week, sweet. Pay double next week or pay it off. He's about $7k behind mind you. If he has no fuel to pick the kids up, I drop them off. If he has no money when he has the kids, I have given him some so that he can enjoy his weekend with them without worry, but he has to pay it back. (I know, im an idiot. My Dad already growled me for that lol I just wanted my boys to enjoy their weekend and be fed). I forward him all emails or messages regarding important things with school, invite him to everything important (concerts, sports, award ceremonies etc.) Send the clothes I have bought for the kids to his house because he has none and wont buy any and rarely get them back. He has them whenever he wants. I dont bust his arse to pay back the debt, we just dont talk about it. Considering everything he has done in the past, he's got it good. Im not a pain in the arse like I know some women can be. Who has the time? I dont need the drama or stress.
Despite everything, 95% of his phone calls are abusive. I tell him I wont tolerate it and to call back when he's calm. I hang up and he calls back calm for 30 seconds before screaming my ear off again. If I cant drop the kids off or pick them up for whatever reason, im a f***ing fat c*** that needs a job (I have a job and he knows that lol) and I should be paying him child support?? Whenever he doesn't get his own way, he becomes aggressive and abusive or refuses to have the kids as if its going to hurt me, not realising or caring that he's hurting them. I had to go to hospital once with pregnancy complications. He happily came to pick my Son up because I was going to be in overnight, then all of a sudden he was texting and calling me every half hour asking when I was "coming to pick this kid up" because he had work tomorrow. Kept telling me to hurry the F up or get my "boyfriend" to come pick him up. He couldnt have them for one extra night and drop them to school at 8.15 on his way to work at 9. My partner had to leave work early (I told him not to worry about coming to the hospital, just come after work) to go get him because my ex just wouldnt give up. He makes everything so difficult.
He told me once (when he was single) that child support is for necessities, and if I need extra for school excursions, clothes, shoes, sport etc. that he will go halves. I asked him once and never bothered again. It was world war 3. Said I must be spending all of his child support money on myself if I cant afford extras. If he asks me for something that I say yes to, he will say no to the same thing the following week, swear and carry on. He wants, wants, wants but wont give anything in return. There is no halfway. My partner doesnt even bother trying to make sense of it all anymore.
It stresses me out to no end. I have asked my partner, parents and close friends on numerous occasions if I do ANYTHING to warrant his behaviour and abuse - tell me straight! Tell me if im being a bitch or unreasonable. They're all dumbfounded as to why he is like that. Everyone knows how easy going I am and how crazy he is, so they dont understand either. My best friend told me once that there must be two sides to this story. I must be doing something to make him so crazy, then we went to drop the kids off one day and he was going mental over something trivial, throwing things around, screaming, calling me names and swearing. After locking the car doors, she apologised to me and said she sees it now. Since then she has also heard the phone abuse and stares at me blankly because she just doesn't understand. I just shrug because im used to it. He's actually got worse as my pregnancy (to my partner of course) has progressed.
I believe I have done everything I can to make things run as smoothly as possible, but nothing helps. How can I get him to at least come down to a level where he's not so nasty and abusive? How do I get him to see that not everything requires an argument and im not a bad person? He's even rude at pick ups and drop offs and the kids sense it. I asked him once why he is the way he is towards me. His reply was "Because you're a c**t" I said "But why? I never do anything to you?" he said "Uhhh no reason. You just are. C**t."
Please help! Im due to have my baby soon and I just dont need the stress. I get so angry over being treated like shit, and it ruins my mood and in turn, everyone elses. Its getting to me. My partner is getting tired of his shit and im scared its pushing him away or he will explode one day and it definately wont be pretty. I really do fear that it will eventually get physical.
*Edit* I leave my kids with him, regardless of how he is towards me because he is their Father. He is a great and very loving Father, I will give him that. Unless he was abusive or violent towards my children, I will not deny him access, ever! It really pisses me off when women use their kids as pawn on a chessboard and keeping them away is their first option. Denying access is wrong when there is no need. Father's have the same amount of right to ser their children as Mother's do!
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He is being an abusive asshole because that's what abusive assholes do! Plus he is probably escalating because a new baby to a new man means he feels like he is loosing control!
He won't stop being an abusive asshole no matter how nice, or easy going you are. Because that's who he is. It's not about who you are or what you do, it's about him.
The only thing you can do is minimise the contact you have with him and set up barriers to his abuse. So get yourself a cheap phone, have your current number changed to that phone. Turn the phone off and put it in the drawer. Only check the phone once a day. Only respond to him in TEXT. That way you are creating proof of his abuse as its in writing and abuse over text isn't quite as brutal. Only respond to texts that are polite and are genuinely about making plans with the kids.
Get a new number for your good phone and only give that number to trusted people who won't give him the number.
Don't ask him for anything that would help, he will only punish you for it.
Get a third party to do drop offs and pick ups of the kids. My dad does drop offs for my nieces and nephews for this very reason. Don't give the guy access to you!
Speak to the police about the situation and a DV support organisation. This is still a Donestic Violence situation even though you don't live together. Speak to your GP about the situation, ask for a referral for some coubselling. What you have written very much sounds like someone who hasn't moved past being in this situation and you'll need on going support to move past it.
Thank you. I have filed DV reports with the Police and since then has not been allowed to step foot in my home. They actually recommended NOT going through with a DVO because of the person he is. They said it would make it extremely difficult to get a custody agreement in place, so to just keep doing what im doing.
His Brother used to do the pick ups and drop offs but has since left town. We dont have anyone else here to do it, but he knocks and waits outside or his partner picks them up.
Great idea about all correspondence via text message, I never thought about that. Thanks again! x
Let your partner sort him out, hopefully verbally, but if it becomes physical, why not? He's a bully and needs a reality check.
My ex is an extremely violent man. I have never met or seen anyone like it. He is one that I cant see being sorted out. He is well known for knocking people out in one punch, and I wont put my partner in that possible situation, so I dont really let them see eachother. I would never forgive myself if my partner tried to defend me and ended up a one punch victim - and it is very much a possibility x
Yes you're absolutely right and you don't want your partner to be up for assault charges either. I just hate bullies, you sound like a very rational person good luckxxx
He's being like this because you're letting him! People are like this because others give in to them. You are no longer together and still he's a toxic drain in your life. The only way to stop it is to STOP IT. Stop pandering to him. Stop giving him money and letting him off financially. Take child support through CSA and get it properly assessed and make them collect. Do a parenting plan, make set days for him to have the kids (or not at all) and make him take responsibility for his own finances. If he cannot have them overnight then days/supervised visits. Stop letting him win. Make him work for his access to the kids.
And listen to your partner. He is warning you - don't make him put up with this. It's not fair on him either.
I have been considering set days or a parenting plan, but it is very difficult as he works in construction and his shifts depend on the weather. He is meant to have them on Saturday nights, but instead might have them on a Wednesday as its his next night off. Its very frustration and last minute sometimes but my kids are just happy they get to see him.
You're definately right about it not being fair on my partner and I am trying harder to keep it away from him so he too is not stressing about it. Thank you for your help x
His like the way he is because you let him. Get a parenting orser in place with scheduled visitstion and child support. Iam also wondering if he flips amd goes off at a drop of a hat then why leave your kids with him ??
Is he on drugs? Sounds like he may be on ice given the unreasonable violence
Next time he loses it at you I would warn him that if the behaviour continues you will be putting formal arrangements in place so that you dont have to put up with his bullshit. Explain you are trying to be fair and reasonable but he is not and you will no longer tolerate his abuse. This is why you left him. If he continues organise child support meeting and let him know that you have done it. Hopefully if you follow through he will pull his socks up. What a wanker
Wow I feel like I could have wrote that.
I don't really have any advice but wanted to let you know you're not alone.
My ex has been quite violent towards me and I'm called a cunt nearly every convo we have. I no longer pick up his calls and make sure all correspondence is through text.
I've cut off access for the moment as he has threatened many times not to bring her back. I don't think he would as he works all the time but I can't risk it. I was very flexible until he started getting crazy. if he started acting normal I would be more than happy for him to have access, so sometimes there is a reason for it.
I have tried to have reasonable conversations but it just ends up him calling me crazy. I'm a mental case. Liar. Cunt. You name it
In my opinon and I have been dealing with your exact situation (without a new partner) there is no talking sense into him. You need to stop being so helpful. Don't speak with him. Pick up and drop off in a McDonald's for eg so it's a public place. If he has no petrol too bad. Maybe give the kids a pair of clothes to leave there and tell them to come back in the clothes they left in even if dirty.
I'm sorry but it sounds like he has a mental problem and until he admits it you are banging your head against a brick wall.