Hi Mums
I'm a fairly old fashioned kinda mum and I've chosen both in my marriage and my
Subsequent partnership to only work part time. For me, being around for quantity
Time and nurturing my family and my man fulfills my values. Even into the three emotionally mature teens I've raised into awesome young adults. I've done this largely alone as their father was disinterested.
My new partner has a teen and I see her as mine.
The subject of work came up recently and my partner said that plenty of women work full time and manage. This got me thinking and feeling quite inadequate.
My kids have been lucky to have me do most for them but they are all very capable and mature and the eldest two are living independently.
Then I thought I would ask my mum friends who work FT exactly how it works... but of all my mum friends I really only have a handful who work FT. Some are teachers so some work is done at home and obviously most school hols are at home. The others work shifts with partners who do not work FT.
My questions to FT mums.
Who actually does the housework at home? We all say the hubbies do less but what jobs DO they help with?
Do you employ someone to help? Childcare, cleaners, gardeners, au pairs?
Does the house stay cleaner when no one is in it for 8-12 hrs a day?
Do you cook every single night or do you rely on take away or convenience meals?
Do jobs like sorting cupboards, wiping down walls, light switches, windows, cleaning out the fridge, decluttering etc get done or left for annual leave?
Why do you do it? Is it for holidays or do you have an excessive mortgage or debt? Do you have a profession or career that you love or do you just work in a menial
Job?
TIA
7 Replies
One vote here for part time and a work life balance. With or without kids.
Dont let him pressure you to feel that full time is the naturally right thing unless you have kids. Its always a choice.
I'm single so can't really answer for couples other than, if I was in a relationship I'd want to be working or back into the work force when my kids were in primary school. Not because I want expensive things, big mortgages, holidays etc
But as a protection for myself and my mental stimulation. Bread winners die, leave whatever and there are very little protections in place for the non working mother in those circumstances. The era of parenting payment until your kids leave home, or a widows pension has well and truly gone. The biggest growing group of homeless people are women who are recently separated in the 50+ age bracket who haven't worked fulltime. Alimony is very rarely awarded in divorce cases these days. So I always, always want to be able to financially support myself in a meaningful way.
My sister and her husband both work fulltime. They share everything equally. They take it in turns staying home with sick kids etc depending on who did last time and whose work day is more easily switched around etc. they do earn good money so they pay for big yard work, pool cleaning, and window cleaning. They have a house cleaner once a fortnight. Who ever is home first gets dinner on. They work as a team, but I think they are an unusually good team. I don't think most fathers are as hands on with housework and childcare but I think it's the way it should be done.
I work full time usually 70 hours a week my daughter goes to school and aftercare I have kept my house clean and all the trivial jobs like cupboards happen once a quarter
Enjoy working and making a living and enjoying other adult interaction
I've done full time work. I was part time for a year after my daughter but had to resign or go back full time so I went back full time.
I'd just like to say working full time sucks! I struggled so much full time keeping up with the house because j wanted my spare time to be about my daughter. I'm on a career break ATM and I don't think I'm going to return to full time work. It's too hard and part time I'll be in a similar position. It's just me and her so the time is precious and I love being able to do things with her. Yes money's tight but she never goes without. I always make sure she can do things ATM she's doing swimming and horse riding lessons. Going back full time I wouldn't be able to do these things.
Part time is a perfect work life balance and she will be going to kindy which makes it easier instead of 5 days in long daycare.
Both hubby and myself work full time. We have 3 kids and dont use babysitters or cares very often. Our kids are pretty much with us all the time besides when their in school. Our youbgest goes to day care 2 days per week not because its needed more to socialise. Hubby works nights and i work avos. When iam at work hubby will pick kids ip from school, cook dinner, bath kids and do their home work. When i get home from work he goes to bed and i do stories and bed. Yes i do get guilty sometimes and yes sometimes i miss them like crazy but its nice to be able to give them everything i didnt get and its nice bot to worry when a bill comes in. I went back to work when each of my kids where 4mths old.
I work FT and so does my partner. At first I stayed home until our son was 4 then went straight to FT night shift work. It meant that care was minimal (and luckily we had grandma who was a SAHM) as our shifts didn't have huge overlaps. It also meant dad had to do the bath and dinner etc as I was at work and I did breakfast and (the following year) homework in the morning. Once my son was in mid-primary I transferred to morning shift so I was home in the early afternoon for school pick up. Then when he went to high school I got a promotion which puts my current hours at 7am-5pmish. We've been in the routine of cleaning as we go for so long now it's habit for all of us (dishes to the sink, towels hung up, washing to the laundry hampers, cleaning the toilet when you use it etc), dad does outside and son often helps - I burn to a crisp in 5 minutes of sunlight so I tend the garden beds in the early morning or late afternoon, son vacuums, I mop and dad cleans and oils the veranda, we each do our own washing and I wash the towels/bedding, I usually cook for two of us and son does dishes. Dad is very fond of beef and we are not so he often cooks for himself if he wants steak otherwise he'll have what we're having. Every weekend all 3 of us have a tidy up of the crap (unopened mail, jackets left on the backs of chairs, clean washing still in baskets, shoes left lying around - yeah this one's my bad, etc), dad and I take turns to clean out the fridge, son tidies the plastics cupboard, I tidy the pantry once a month, walls and light switches are spot cleaned on a big weekend clean up, son cleans windows (does a quarter of them each week so by the end of the month he's back to the start). For a while I was working 14-16 hours a day so I hired a cleaner to come in and pick up the slack from what I wasn't doing, other than that we make do on our own but it's a 3 person household with no hairy indoor pets. This house takes a lot of punishment before it looks like squatters have moved in. Meals are rarely take away as we're semi rural but they are convenient, things like stir frys with the frozen stir fry veggies, savoury mince or spag bol, casseroles/stews and tuna or chicken oven bakes. I have a slow cooker and a steamer and both are fantastic for getting dinner out on time. On Fridays our son makes food for himself and I have a night off cooking to relax with a bourbon. Why do I do it? Independance I guess is the main reason. We have a pretty small mortgage compared to most and neither of us are in more debt than your average 20K car. We live frugally and don't try to keep up with the Jonses. At first for me it was a menial job and I hated it, eventually I came out of my shell a bit and started making my own fun while being committed to doing the best job I could. Just when my body was buckling under the heavy labour and I was looking for a new challenge I was offered a new job in the company and loved it. I've found I have a head for logistics and I get a kick out of taking what looks like an impossible task and making it happen so everyone is happy, my flair got me another promotion to department manager so everyday is a new logistical nightmare and I thrive on it. Don't be made to feel you "have to" but if you're genuinely looking into it don't let fear hold you back.
"Plenty of women work full time and manage" Manage what? to look after him - who works full time and doesn't do much/anything? Before changing a routine that has worked for you, try loading him up. Let him "work full time and manage" IMO If you both work full time then the home duties are 50/50. A serious 50/50. And no it doesn't count if he earns more for the same hours. Hours are hours. And if he's not the type to use his initiative around the house and pick up the slack without being asked don't even think about going back full time, cause you will end up loaded up with all his unfinished tasks - just because you always have...
My first husband was very well trained domestically and we did have an equal partnership, both worked full time, but we always had a cleaning lady weekly to keep us both sane and the kids had their jobs. I then had 10 years alone, worked full time, kept the cleaning lady and just hired people when I needed them for extras like pool, lawn, etc. Kids still had their jobs. Second husband useless around the house and we both work full time - ongoing battle to get his 50% done. Most noticeable once the kids left home and he couldn't delegate to them...