Hey IM's
Just wondering if I'm being too over the top at the visits her dad lets her climb on a fence. fenced play area and he's made comments about taking her so I asked him to take her down from the fence. He goes I'm parenting so I say it's fine. He undermines anything I say. Due to him going inside I followed but sat on seats behind. He turns to our child and goes come on let's go outside and play away from mum. Who says that to a nearly 4 year old! I wasn't interfering just being close by die to him saying to her that was daddy's chance to take her when I didn't let her go to his car. He's made comments like this numerous times. He also this visit and last asked her to go sit in the play area with him and got her to take the food and stuff in. I don't say much I just sit there unless it's something that I need to say. Like she had surgery on her head and he held her upside down for ages. After a bit he wasn't stopping I said you really shouldn't be doing that she still hasn't gotten the all clear. He goes I was waiting for you to say something and goes to our daughter mummy said no. After the last visit and him sitting up in the play equipment with her she was unsettle for around 3 days. She disclosed the night after that daddy said he was going to take her somewhere and daddy told her not to tell. She kept saying she was scared and I asked why? I said you can tell mummy anything you won't be in trouble and she came out with that. I said daddy's not taking you baby girl and you can always tell mummy anything we don't keep secrets. Than after that the morning she also repeated similar things. There's DV orders on both us. It's always in a public place. My concern is what he is saying to her obviously these things but in ear shot he also tells her she can go to his house soon and feed the horses next door. She's not going unsupervised drugs, dui, DV us and previous, manslaughter, etc and she has no concept of soon so she now uses the word soon but doesn't understand when soon is. Telling her something like that empty promises really aren't in her best interests. She never asks these things he always tells her. Also she doesn't ask to go sit in the equipment he turned to her and said lets go sit up in there.
I don't know if im being too concerned. He said to her I'll walk you to mummies car I said no say bye to daddy here. He goes no I'll do what I want there aren't any orders in place. There's No need for him to come to my car and I really don't see the need for it.
I doubt myself so much. He gives me looks at the visits which these days don't intimate me as much as they used to and I think becuase he's loosing control of me and things he's now using our daughter. He's never bothered much and he's never bought up his other kids. I'm worried. I'm worried he will try to get her unsupervised. There are 4 other ex partners I'm aware about that were also abused by him. I didn't realise the extent till recently except for two which I believed what he said but I now know better. I don't want to stop visits as that's not fair on her but I also don't want her going into his world thinking all the things he does are normal. He's cunning, charming, knows what he needs to do when he wants something, knew what to say to the councillor when he got out so he didn't have to keep attending. I don't want him doing damage to her mentally. I'm wanting to protect her from all that.
I'm just wanting to know what is and isn't ok at visits? At what point am I ok to say something? I don't want to prohibit visits as this will go against me in court and I also think she still needs to see him for her own well being but I also don't want him saying things to a nearly 4 year old. I never say anything like that. Only ask him to stop doing things that I think are reasonable to ask to be stopped. If I was there not on a visit I would tell her to stop the exact same things.
Thanks for you input
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Book him into a contact centre for supervised visits. Hes taunting you and risking her and supervised visits just won't work if its you supervising and you cant be around each other positively, which clearly you cant.
So contact centre and go back to mediation because hes a risk saying hes taking off with her and a risk to her wellbeing poor baby is going to get anxiety from his shit.
Definitely research contact centre. Speak to a women's legal service and find a psychologist who can support you through this.
Definately a contact centre because anything of concern would be noted by a 3rd party as well - not just your say so. I agree having a child in between you both is not a good experience. Poor girl would be confused at all this. Wish you all the best.
I received a message from him at 6:40 going Hi x I had a great visit with daughters name today. She really is a beautiful girl. Thanks.
Thank at 9 a picture of a kids feet with writing saying its your obligation as a parent not to bring caos into your child's life.
I can't understand him. I don't get what he means half the time. He's previously admitted to liking playing mind games but I got a new number and DV order no contact but yet he still messages shit like that I don't understand the need to message any of that shit it's not relevant to organising a visit or a phone call.
I don't know what else I'm supposed to do to stop him. I can't afford a centre. I thought about seeing if I can get family to do the visit as well. Like my dad or mum there.
Don't even TRY to get what he means! You never will get him. Just ignore the texts.
My dad supervises visits for my nephew.
It works quite well for them as he doesn't try to bully men, only women. Also it puts another barrier of defence between you and the ex.
I'd also keep visits to macdonalds, not a park. Maccas is smaller there is usually only one exit and entrance. And they can't get out through the playground!
Get something done about this NOW.
My ex started seeing my son at a supervised centre, 6 weeks later he was seeing him at a park once a week, my ex said he would do this stuff to his friends (my baby wasn't quite one) and he damn well did!! He brought two other people to stop me from doing anything and he was going to put my baby in the car and leave. If it wasn't for my close friends who lived nearby (it was 45 minutes from my home and family) he would have my baby.
This was with mediation papers!! My solicitor stated I was very lucky to get my son back as even with mediation papers I would need to take my ex to court to get my boy back as mediation papers are only taken into consideration by the courts. The police also stated (I went there afterwards) that mediation and family Court have nothing to do with them and IF he had of taken him, they couldn't retrieve him due to it being a court matter and this man is still the father and not considered a danger to the child.
Far out that is so scary. Sounds like you are very lucky. What a prick!!
My ex done the same thing when I left there was also dv, drugs and control.
my daughter at the time was 1 he lost control when I ended it and started using her to try and intimidate me, he wasn't interested in her it was me and the control he had over me as he saw how much I would do anything for her.. after awhile of police visits and child services getting involved we (police and child services included) decided it was best I move away as he got quite nasty and his threats started to not be just threats anymore, I move country to be near my family and the only contact I ever get from him is abuse.. I don't regret my decision to leave what so ever.. he was doing more harm than good and now 5 years on we are happy and peaceful! Do what you think is right.. but do it all properly.. maybe get a third party to sit in on the visits or better yet a lawyer! Good luck!