Vaping

Anon Imperfect Mum

Vaping

Do you ever find phone charger cables in your kids rooms, cut up, wires exposed......?

Well, i got some interesting info for ya....your kids vaping, and they do it to recharge the batteries...

I went through several cables to just discover this, after looking at my childs google surch.....

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Just saying well they’re going to do it, is not encouraging them to quit. It’s feeding their habit and probably being a gateway to other kids who wouldn’t otherwise do it.
You have to give the info so they don’t want to do it. Or just take it up yourself, make it totally uncool and take the mystery out of it

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Anon Imperfect Mum

If you were able to go thru their "surch" history, it tells me that they are in their early teens? I can't imagine an older teen not being smart enough to open an incognito window on their phone browser. How old are they just to confirm? I have an 18yo, 12yo and 6yo and I get it, it sucks big time when they are out of your control.

We recently found out that the 18yo started vaping as soon as he finished school and he 10000% knows how angry and disgusted we are. His grandparents used to smoke and have resulting health issues. So, we give him zero financial help. Nothing. He is working part time and lives in the granny flat out the back. We have set the following rules:
- moving out by Oct 2023
- no vaping anywhere near your parents, grandparents
- no vaping inside the house
- absolutely ZERO vaping anywhere near younger siblings

He is actually a really promising footy player and there is a notable decrease in his performance, stamina etc. We have provided him with information, links etc.

He is technically an adult now (as he likes to point out!) so now has to face consequences of those actions. Sure, I picked up a ciggie once as a teen. Once. Tried it and those ineffective puffs were just about enough.

We are not talking about a puff here or there. The vapes, their flavours and looks are specifically aimed at 13-30 age group and I will do whatever I can at our end. I'm not taking this lightly or laughing this off.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Although there is nicotine in them, there are no carcinogenics. The USA ones are deadly as they can cause popcorn lung.

In Australia, those ones aren't available.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Unless they are making their own

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Oooh no there’s so much other danger; fluid on the lungs etc, if you jump over here; it’s a really good scholarly article that breaks down how we can further research it etc,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9588082/

But I’ll just summarise it (in their words not mine)

E-Cigarette and Vaping-Associated Lung Illness (EVALI) brought the short-term respiratory consequences of vaping into question, especially if cannabis or THC-containing products are used4. Other short-term respiratory changes that have been linked to vaping include increased airway resistance5, breathing difficulty6, and transient lung inflammation7. Vaping has also been associated with chronic respiratory conditions such as asthma8 and chronic bronchitis9. Despite these reports, the short- and long-term respiratory safety of vaping is still largely unknown.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

This is an American Government article? Do you have an Australian article? If you're trying to say someone is wrong its probably best to not use something that supports their claim.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I found out my 15 year old had been vaping, she had everything taken off her and grounded but she was still doing it. She didn't even know what was in her vape she was just buying stuff from her friends at school, the same stuff that put one of her friends in hospital. So I took a different approach. I allowed her to vape with rules and with a date for quitting. I buy well branded vape juice with no additives so I know exactly what's going in her body. I buy her vape pens so she's not sharing with god knows who and what's been used in it before. I don't have to worry about finding cut up cords in her bedroom and the risk that goes with them.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

You've given up, what a shame.
When she's an adult smoker, she will probably look back on your behaviour and wish you hadn't.
But the current 15 year old would be happy with your actions.
I guess it makes homelife easier for you, no fighting, no discipline and no supervising of what she's up to, just peace because she does as she pleases.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Not given up at all, it would have been much easier to just pretend what we did worked and that she wasn't doing it, putting her health at more risk. We took the harder road which was communication, education and a realistic time frame to quit.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

So when you discipline your child, do you pretend it worked and turn a blind eye?
I don't.
What is hard is consistency, discipline, supervision, really stepping up to deter the behaviours.
You may not win, but surrendering at 15, no way, there's too much at stake.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Not surrendering, she wants to quit and is going through with the plan. If we didn't do this she would still be vaping with no plans on quitting and we wouldn't know how bad it was. I think its a win and I've been told by professionals that its good so I don't need your opinion, thanks.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

You can't follow them around school and we both work so she's unsupervised most of the day until 5.30.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

You act like you're a noble mother who is minimising harm by buying it for her, but vape juice is vape juice.
It is bought in stores, it is regulated.
It's not an illegal drug.
You're a joke.
How exactly are you reducing harm?
A mother who provides her teen with clean needles so she doesn't get AIDS, Hep B & C when she shoots up, I understand that.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Oh sorry I see the additives.
You're buying the "organic version".
Does that stop addiction and dependency?

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I'm an on again, off again smoker and I discuss this regularly with my teens.
I sware to god, if any of them vaped, I would take away anything in their life that brought them absolutely any joy.
I would make their life hell, so that when they weigh up the cost/benefit analysis, it just isn't worth it to them to vape.
You have to make life difficult and uncomfortable for teens, they're selfish, they will always choose the path of least resistance.
I want to vape, but Fck me, I don't want to be grounded and not see my friends for the rest of my life.
I'm tired of doing all these chores and not having a life.
It's really important to me that my kids don't grow up with a nicotine/vaping addiction, due to my struggles.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

As a smoker, who gives myself a date, without a doubt, the longer you allow the vaping, the harder it will be to quit.
You need to nip it in the bud, she is only 15, she may not be addicted yet.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

This makes no sense. Do vapes have special charging cords? The ones I've seen use the same charging cords as phones. If a person can afford vapes and vaping juice, surely they can afford a cheap charging cord

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Anon Imperfect Mum

They are all different. I think that's the problem, most teens can't afford to be vaping so they learn to mix and match, put things in it they shouldn't, fix up broken vapes,

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Anon Imperfect Mum

It's the disposable vapes they are trying to recharge. The vapes don't have a charging port which is why they are cutting the cords and using the exposed wires to stuff around and get them working longer. Very dangerous not only a fire hazard. But they are now vaping with a dry vape. Very bad.

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