I don't know if this is your average relationship issue?

Anon Imperfect Mum

I don't know if this is your average relationship issue?

Apologies in advance as this will be long. I don't know if I'm asking for help or advice or whatever, I just need to talk to someone because I don't have anyone I feel comfortable talking to.
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Let me first say that I am forgetful, when I get stressed or overwhelmed I forget things. I have hearing problems as well, industrial deafness is a thing. Sometimes noises blend together and I find it hard to differentiate between voices and sounds. This causes problems, with me being told I don't pay attention/don't listen, on purpose to make OH's life harder. I can be a bit flaky and aloof, but I never used to be that way. Sometimes I feel its my brain's way of coping with anxiety, making me forgetful. Let's say i write a lot of lists so I don't stuff up. Regardless, this can cause problems too, being told I'm not taking things seriously. Sometimes I will shut down emotionally and be quiet, I would rather look dumb than continue fighting. OH calls this the silent treatment, which I can see from their point of view, but I'm not doing it specifically for that reason. So I know have faults too.

My other half (OH, and I'm trying to not use gender pronouns in order to maintain anonymity) had a horrible childhood, and suffers from PTSD and BPD2 as a result of that, and exes that were abusive.

When we met, it was quite honestly love at first sight - something I didn't believe in, because I'd been hurt/used so many times before. I didn't want to believe something like that was possible, but here I was. Things moved fast. We were inseparable.

I had to move from where I was, with my kids (I had a care arrangement with their father), so my OH suggested we move in (we were going to do that eventually anyway). We all moved in and it was very 'cozy', but we made it work. Things changed when we had their kids move in as well, it became even more cozy/uncomfortable. OH quit their job, I was still working. OH sold their car, we used mine instead. We went out to dinner one night and there were poker machines, I gave OH a few dollars to play with and they won. Big. Since then, literally any spare money (and not spare) has been poured into poker machines, chasing that big win again. Taken out of my account without letting me know beforehand more than half the time. This information isn't really important, just part of it all I guess.

OH found a bigger place to live so we all moved. All 6 of us pretty much (keeping in mind I had a care arrangement in place) so 2 weeks out of every 4 we would have 4 kids with us. Still cozy. Things happened and we ended up with 3 kids with us (nothing inherently bad), my 2 and their 1. My 2 still on the week on/week off arrangement.

I was then successful in gaining a very well paying job that took me away from home for a period at a time, meaning my OH was on their own at home with their child (my kids came home to me when I was back). I took the job in the hope that what i was earning would help us get ahead. It came to light that one of my kids was telling hurtful lies/stories about OH hurting them (completely untrue), and my other kid was constantly lying/took a potential weapon to school. Punishment was started and the bad behaviour stopped (for the most part). My eldest decided that they wanted to live with us full time, didn't feel like they could be themselves at their fathers house. We all sat down and discussed this, agreeing to a new care arrangement for the eldest, keeping my other child's one the same. My OH assured me that as long as my kid pulled their weight at home (chores, helping out etc), there wouldn't be any problem and I was hopeful. A couple of days before I went to work again, my OH gained new work - I was happy for them, outwardly I didn't show it as much as they had wanted me to. All I was thinking about was logistically getting to work (with no car, as I was talked into selling mine so they could get theirs) and if my kid would be too much trouble with OH now working. I was also thinking about how good it would be now that OH wouldn't have time during the day to put money in the poker machines, but I didn't want to say that to OH. I was wrong about that, but I'll get around to it.

Anyway, I went out to work, OH started the new job. All seemed OK. I started getting messages that my kid was lying again and not doing their share of the jobs around the house/being lazy. Not using initiative etc. Phone calls with the same - and being told again that I wasn't being supportive enough (it was hard to talk on the phone where I was working at the time with any privacy). The same night OH told me that they had broken down and couldn't take the behaviour anymore, so I cut my shift short and came home (I had borrowed a car to get out there and back).

I came home to sort out the behaviour and support my OH. I did the best I could, but it has never been to OH's standard (like I said earlier, horrible childhood but it was all they knew growing up). OH would jump in and take over, not let me discipline my kids or give me a chance to, so felt and said that I always left it up to them (which wasn't true). The next day I had my other child back with us too, which brought new stresses. Already slated to be on punishment, not allowed to talk to OH due to the stories and lies, there was no flexibility. I had both kids outside doing yard work 1. To keep them out of OH hair, 2. Keep them busy 3. To remove some of the stress from the household. This didn't work. Things came to a head and I got told to take my kids out of the house. I asked if OH was serious and they said that the kids will get what they wanted. What option other than leaving with the kids did I have? I borrowed the car (that I borrowed for work) again and left. I didn't leave without saying I love you to my OH, I honestly wasn't expecting go back unless it was to collect the few items I own.

I drove around for a while not knowing where to go. Crying, panicking etc. I pulled up, called the kid's father to see if they could go there, their father said he was too busy. I had some money left so planned to pay for a room for myself and my kids. A few nasty and realistic messages back and forth with OH and I got told to come and get their things or they would be thrown out. Again, seemed like no flexibility so I went back home and packed my kids things in plastic bags, and a change of clothes for myself. Walking back to the car, OH messaged me and started on me about not coming to talk to them so I went back. We yelled, cried, yelled again and then talked. Again OH told me that I needed to step up and discipline the kids, again I said that OH needed to let me do so. We decided that we would come back, and my kids would remain on punishment for a while longer. The stories started from the younger one again a day or so later and I did smack them. There were tears and it broke my heart. I have vowed to not let that happen again. It hasn't really changed anything, apart from my oldest living with us FT now actually pulling his weight and helping/completing chores. OH seems to hate my other kid, calls them names, calls them both names really, not really to their face but when discussing them with each other. I quit the well-paying job, because whatever happens, I needed to be home.

The gambling is a problem. Its how OH says they relax, but I get duped into going, or I'm expected to go. I'm expected to press the button every 2nd spin, and I know deep down that this is potentially, somehow OH making me responsible for their actions. I know that one day they are going to say that if I didn't go, they wouldn't have gone. I feel like I have to do it to keep the peace. I get promised things - like told that money thats been put aside will help me buy a new-to-me car. It ends up lining someone else's pocket via poker machine. I know that i will be blamed by OH for letting them go there, when in fact I feel forced. I would much rather be spending my night at home snuggled on the couch watching TV, or going for a drive to nowhere, than wasting it, because thats exactly what gambling is when you boil it down. Its only fun when you win. As a result, all of our items that could be sold or on loan, are sold or on loan. Even special jewellery (that was bought for each other with money that I had worked for). Being told that since the money got spent (gambled), we needed money for food and smokes, only to get the smokes and have the rest gambled away. Borrowing money from family, being told or promised the same thing (food, cigs and then wasted). Going with OH doesn't control the amount of money spent, I don't know why but I always believe OH. Maybe its that if I keep believing them, one day it'll be an honest promise. Maybe i go with them in the hope that they will see how unhappy I am being there, and realise that we shouldn't be there (outright telling OH that i didn't want to be there hasn't changed anything).

My car. I hated it and wanted it gone, but I didn't want to be left with no transport and no freedom. In order to get OH's car at a lower price, OH suggested selling mine (again with the promise that a new one would be bought). Any time that there is extra money put aside for that, it gets poured away into a poker machine. The car is OH car. Not ours, its OH's. I say that, because even though when OH first got the car, if there was any dirt on it anywhere, it was OH's car (as in 'don't do that to my car or you'll be walking everywhere'). Which is strange because the money i earn is ours but not mine even though the money that OH earns is theirs - at times OH will say different, I just don't question OH's weekly pay or how much they get. I get asked all the time what mine will be, how much I'll be getting and when, and if where I say its been spent doesn't match up, I get the third degree or some other thing where I get told that we will split our finances and I'll never be able to ask for money if its needed etc. I've been financially abused previously and knowing how that feels, I would never and never will do that to anyone else. I used to very irresponsible with money as a result, which in turn resulted in me losing everything, and I've worked very hard to be more responsible/understand spending habits and saving etc. I know that's what this is, financial control is what I'm experiencing. I don't know what, if anything, I can do to stop it.

So at the end of all this, i still love my OH very deeply. I know that OH has been through a lot and is stronger for it. I respect them for their hard work and struggles. My OH deserves to be loved honestly, deeply and how anyone deserves to be loved, particularly having gone through what they have. I love our little family, but I feel so trapped. No friends anymore because I participated in an activity where someone was hitting on me (and I told OH this as it was in the past), I was guilted into giving up that activity and as a result, my friends and my only outlet for physical activity. No transport, no freedom - nearly everything and anything I do is with OH, understanding that some symptoms of PTSD and BPD2 involve attachment. The money that I earn is being analysed and I'm being made empty promises constantly. I write letters because its easier for me to get my thoughts down on paper than it is to say them - part of the reason is that i don't get interrupted. I write the letters to remind OH how much I love them, what I love about them and why. I buy flowers, little gifts every now and again (when I've found myself with spare money). Not to buy their love. I just want to remind them that through everything, I'm still in love with them. I still love them and think highly of them. I want to feel loved too, it seems more often than not I'm failing at being a good partner. I am told often that some things I do are like OH's ex/exes or what the exes would do, compared to people i am nothing like. I feel like OH is finding the faults so that they can say 'see i told you so, just like them'. I get told (during fights) that it was my fault I didn't recognise things were bad for OH and that they needed help. If I don't get told that, its clearly implied at the time. I didn't see it because OH chose to hide it from me. Chose to not disclose anything when I did ask them what was going on, and push me away both physically and emotionally. Yet i am blamed. I know I can miss things, I get confused and overwhelmed. One thing I know completely is that if you want help, you have to want to accept it, and OH doesn't even accept help with housework (I still do it because its not their responsibility alone).

I know OH is controlling. Financially controlling. I'm still trying to work out if sex is being used as leverage/a form of control. I've been called hurtful names, none that I would ever call anyone else. Told I'm behaving a certain way, and then the hurtful names are used. I understand that OH has these conditions. OH has chosen to not continue counselling. I've asked if they are going and I either get lied to or the subject changes. If I want to discuss anything of concern it gets thrown back at me, I get called names eventually, I get talked over and can't get a word in or its a combination.

I don't want to get resentful. We can't discuss the kids (mine) because it makes OH angry. We can't discuss the gambling because apparently there is no problem. I am having trouble paying bills because I get told to take all of the money out of my account as soon as it goes in (I have mostly been paying the rent, I borrowed money for the bond. My name is on the electricity and we do a big grocery shop once a month. Pretty much no other food is bought between these times unless its takeout).

Please give me some constructive advice, I know I'm too nice, and I know that while I don't intend to be, I'm a bit of a doormat. I know I'm a bit of a sucker, and I know that my self-esteem has taken a massive hit. Feeling ugly, useless, no good. I've let myself become a verbal punching bag, because I keep believing promises of change. I just want to be loved and feel safe.

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45 Replies

Anon Imperfect Mum

This whole thing is toxic.
You need to leave.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Deep down i know I do. Im being toxic as well by being too afraid of letting go, and I'm letting it happen because of fear. I don't know what to do or where to go

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Make a plan. Stick to it. You can’t live like this any longer

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Anon Imperfect Mum

He is abusive and controlling, you need to get you and your kids away from there and stop making excuses for his behaviour.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I honestly didn't realise I was making excuses for their behaviour, I felt I was understanding but I can see your point

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I would be an absolute wreck.

You can’t win with this person. Whatever you do they will want the opposite. That’s why you feel pulled in every direction.

This person is an adult who is responsible for their own health. It’s not ok to blame it on PTSD etc. if it is because of mental health issues, they aren’t far enough along treatment to be in a relationship. Either way they have a very long way to go before they’d be vaguely ready and your TOP priority has to be your children and your mental health.

You can’t afford this relationship, the cost is too high.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I feel like I am an absolute wreck and that im to blame for this, even knowing that if this were happening to any one of my friends I would be telling them to leave. I know that its not fair to blame the kids. I know that whether inadvertently or on purpose, ive been isolated from my family and friends. I know that in OH's mind, the reasoning will be because everyone else has done it to them, so they're getting in first. I know that's not how the world or relationships work. I've had clients in similar situations to what I'm going through now, and I wonder if I brought it on my self. How did I get here?

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Anon Imperfect Mum

How did you get there? Is an import age question for another day.

Today your question should be is ‘what steps do I need to take to get my kids and myself free and clear from this person?’

When you’ve done that it’s a great plan to talk with a therapist (especially one who understands the early warning signs of DV). Problem is some of those warning signs also FEEL really good so we like to ignore them.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

To be honest with you, I have been thinking about what I need to do. My youngest is with their father, my biggest issue is no transport. I am working on it.

I agree with the ignoring part, I think that's what is making me think I caused all of this

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Anon Imperfect Mum

It is YOUR car, take it back x

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Odd. I inferred this to be a same sex couple and thought SHE (OH) is abusive. Either way, get out.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I was tired and in the very bad habit of writing he, when I responded. I read it as if cups be a she/non-binary etc etc but when I responded ‘he’ (wrongly) was what I typed.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

6 lines in and wow! This person you are dating is horrible. To you and your kids! I think you know the right thing is to leave. Nobody deserves to get streamed so poorly. It doesn’t matter what up bringing they had, they can’t use that as an excuse to be a terrible person

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I keep doing research on the conditions to see if this is normal and I'm pretty sure its not :(

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Doing research to see if their behaviour is normal isn’t normal. You are looking for way to justify the shirt behaviour because you know deep down this isn’t how someone that loves you treats you. You are a strong and wonderful person and deserves to be with someone that respects that. This person will never change.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

No. You are trying so hard to 'understand' and buy into excuses. Spend the time googling domestic violence and try as hard to see if youre in one. Theres always reasons behind it. Everybody has a story. It doesnt excuse it. Also google codependency and figure out what youre doing trying so hard to find an excuse and understand.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

How about google the effects of dv on growing brains?
Instead of googling shit about him, google the effects on those poor kids.
Change your focus, kids welfare come before you needing a romantic partner.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Trying to justify sh!t behaviour is exactly what I'm doing. OH got home and because I let my eldest watch TV today (I forgot that she said he was on no TV today because he forgot to put the bathmat up after his shower) i got the silent treatment and told that she wouldn't be dealing with him anymore. That i was giving in.

I wasn't giving in, to be honest I was giving him a break. My eldest did all his jobs and was asking what else I needed done, so I rewarded him. So I asked to talk about it, OH said no, I asked why, OH said they just didn't want to talk so continued with the silent treatment. I decided I wasn't playing this game.

So I've cooked dinner, and kept talking to OH, just not as much. Not playing games anymore. The support I've gotten today has given me a confidence I haven't had in a long time.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

You will get there. It isn’t easy breaking away from somebody like that. But you can do it. When you start to doubt your reasons, just remember why it’s so important to leave. Yours and your kids mental health.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Banned from watching any TV all day over a fucking bathmat ! Listen to yourself and yet your still trying to talk to her. Your poor child. Get him away from that Cunt. Your job is to get your child away from that THING

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Agreed. Sorry but your kids aren't lying when they say they're being hurt. They are being abused by the person.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I agree 100%. Those poor children. I would love to know if she treats her/his kids the same.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Holy fuck. He kicked you out. With your kids. Do not go back!!!! You went back AND punished your kids. Youve lost any power in that house, not that you had any, so this worries me youve moved now into really dangerous territory. Your kids dont respect you to make good decisions and you let your OH order their discipline. You have to get back out. they've brought nothing good to your life from the start, but this last thing has to be it, end it now.
Dont have your kids there any more. For their own good. And when you realise youre in a house with someone that 'your kids make angry' then youll realise you need to go.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Have you considered your kids aren’t lying?
FFS you are allowing a man to abuse your kids, plus then you are partaking in it, joining him.
Do you get that?
You love him so much, where’s the love for your poor kids?
You are not in love, you are a codependent in a toxic relationship and you are choosing him over your kids, every single time.
I would have more compassion, but you’re obviously some kind of therapist so you have knowledge and the way you are treating your kids is so, so bad.
The two options I see are 1. Leave, run. 2. Stay, leave kids with father 100 percent because you’ve already checked out of caring for their well-being.
Something else, when you need to research and speak psychobabble to justify their behaviour, it’s not right. It isn’t supposed to be this hard if you’re compatible.
Your kids welfare come before your need to have a partner.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

And FYI I’ve accepted being treated badly too, but if anyone messes with my kid, it’s all over red rover. I love my child more than I love myself and their well-being will always come first.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Do you feel better now you’ve gotten that off your chest? Do you feel better now you have belittled someone that has had everything thing taken away from her so she is essentially stuck there with no transportation? Do you feel better purposely speaking to somebody like shit when they are reaching out for help? Considering you say you have been in a situation similar you would think you may have a little understanding that sometimes it takes someone a while to see through the fog of their “normal”

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Anon Imperfect Mum

I will never condone child abuse to protect the feelings of a mother.
She went back and punished them on his demand.
She hit them on his demand.
How many times do we see kids killed by their step father?
He doesn’t wake up one morning and do it, it escalates, it gets worse, the mother enables it, but this is how it starts.
The kids in this situation don’t have a voice, I’m trying to be that.
The kids needs an advocate before this gets out of hand.
If I hurt her feelings, so be it, this is an alarming situation and I don’t apologise.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

She is dating a women. She has finally realised what is happening and asking on what do now, how to leave. You offer nothing but judgment and no support.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

No, a reality check, a wake up call on behalf of those poor kids.
I’m not going to pat her on the head and say there, there, when she complicit in the abuse of her own kids.
When she goes on and on about her LOVE for this monster who abuses her kids.
She needs to get her priorities straight, put her kids first, not her love interest.
Woman or man, abuse is abuse and has devastating effects.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Its true you always hear about step parents doing severe harm to step children and the parent being present. This can be one of those cases. She is in dv and her OH hates her children and punishes them excessively and picks on them and OP is in the washer.spinning round and round and cant see clearly but wants to keep the peace with OH its dangerous ground. Triggering for people to read. I hope that is enough for you to realise how far out of normal it is.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Thank you 🙏

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Anon Imperfect Mum

This is definitely not an average relationship issue. Surely you can see that?! I feel so sorry for your kids. They are struggling and need for you to step up and be their champion. They need your support, love and guidance. Don’t punish them because of your horrible mean OH. You run the risk of a whole lot of resentment from them when they get older. I’m sorry but you need to do better, not with your toxic partner, for your children.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Oh dear...

If you can’t leave for yourself do it for your children! They only get one childhood. And while OH might have had a rough start to life that’s no excuse for treating you and your children poorly.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

The thing you need to ask yourself is "is this working for me?", "is it working for my kids?".
No?
Then it's not working.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Leave and leave now. I stopped reading this “partner” of yours is toxic and your putting him before your kids that’s terrible poor kids.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Imagine what this is doing to your children, let alone yourself. You need to focus on yourself and your children. OH needs to want to change and if they dont they never will. Get out!!

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Sounds like you are better on your own. An adult wanted you to support them but then when your child's needs you that adult expects child to do their share.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

You can do this, you have a career, you have financial means and you are being taken advantage of. Time to split all finances, get your name off the lease and stand on you own adult legs. it will be tough, love doesn't do all of that, love doesn't put kids in adult arguments, love isn't tolerating gambling just isn't keep the peace. You are being played and using every excuse. Kick the OH out, or walk. Get a little car and be free. gambling will cause you all to loose way more than a relationship. What would say if this was a situation on of your kids where in?

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Leave ! Some times love just isn't enough ! Gambling never stops without professional help, eventually the ship will sink get off before it takes you down aswell!! And sorry but it sounds like your kids are not living their best life in a place with someone who doesnt like or accept them!!! Get yourself some government help and get outta there you all deserve more ! It wont be easy but it will be worth it. Good luck to you !!! Sincerely someone who left and doesnt regret it !

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Wow just reading that was enough. You need to leave. Get your friends and your happiness back. Your kids are most important and I bet all your friends can’t wait to have you back. Start living for yourself and give that one up! You are too supportive for someone that’s controlling and disrespectful to your kids. Get out now! Stop making excuses also for their up bringing because it’s no excuse. Move on as hard as it will be. You will be so much happier and so will your kids, family and friends. How toxic!!

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Anon Imperfect Mum

One thing that no one has mentioned is that there is the very real possibility that child safety will become involved if you aren't acting protectively. From what I've read here, you haven't been. I understand that DV is a pattern and people get stuck in the cycle, however now that you've seen it for what it is, you do need to act. Contact the local DV service. They will help. Call DV connect. There are Soooo many services available for DV victims (as long as they don't have a penis). Please listen to your kids and protect them. You've identified that your OH had a terrible childhood... Please protect your kids from having a terrible childhood too. This stuff stays with kids until they are adults and have their own kids. You have the confidence after this post.. Please act on it. Contact DV connect and see if they can help x good luck x

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Are you sure the kids are lying? I feel like they might not be. Imagine they’re telling the truth and you didn’t believe them because you’re so blinded by your OH.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Are you sure the kids are lying? I feel like they might not be. Imagine they’re telling the truth and you didn’t believe them because you’re so blinded by your OH.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Are you going to let this person be responsible for losing your children as well as everything else? That's what is next, why would they want to live in such a horrible home!
Wakeup, get yourself out now, walk, catch a bus, who cares just get out and stop justifying this person's disgusting behaviour, what a horrible human. You don't love this person, you love the fairytale that was there in the begining and is never coming back.

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Anon Imperfect Mum

Your OH is abusive, your kids are not lying about how they are being treated. To throw them out and to demand that you get their things and then to yell at them and treat them like rubbish is HUGE red flags. Get out now, for your sake and for the kids..

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