I have a question in regards to family run day care. My mum is willing to look after my kids at our house three days a week however she needs to be paid accordingly and with the child care subsidy this is doable for our family but we cannot afford to pay her the full amount that it would be without it and she can't afford to do it without getting paid properly. My question is without going through all the hoops like getting the house up to code and everything that agencies need is there a way for her to become an educator and apply for the subsidy on our behalf like a centre or family run day care would. She would not be looking after anybody else's kids it's just her grandbabies in their home. We live rural and every child care centre and family run day care is full we have been in waiting list for ages without any luck.
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As far as I know, no. You must meet the standards to run a daycare and be eligible for CCS payments from the government regardless of if it’s just grandbabies.
Sadly no. To receive the subsidy she will need to follow the same guidelines as those who look after other peoples children in their home. Can you compromise on a payment amount that you can afford and that she is happy to receive? If she is looking after them in your home she is really just babysitting as I presume you will be providing the essentials food, nappies etc.
No, there’s absolutely no way this can work with the subsidy. And without any qualifications she probably isn’t worth the money you’d be paying her honestly. I wouldn’t see this working out in favour of anyone, at the end of the day she’s their grandparent not their teacher and I think for the sake of the relationship it is best not to mix the two
No, sorry this is not possible, otherwise it compromises integrity of every single FDC.
How rural are you? I worked as a governess In QLD for several years under a rural inhome care scheme. I didn’t require qualifications just blue card, first aid certificate and insurance.
Unfortunately not that rural just far enough out to not have any more options but not far enough out to be able to qualify for this
If this was at all possible, every tom, dick and harry would be rorting the system for all it's worth!
Not trying to rort the system she is willing to go through all the education and everything to become qualified we just cannot afford to modify our house so it's up to all the standards they require thats why it would only be out kids that she looks after
You do realise your mother will not be "educated" overnight? Childcare educators train for years to become fully qualified! Honestly, the amount your mother will have to outlay to become educated will far out way the amount of income she will make from you.
I have read online on some websites that as long as they are enrolled in the correct courses and completing the study they can start Family day care straight away provided as OP stated all the requirements for the house are all met (which they cannot afford according to the post)
If your mum already has freetime and is home anyway 3 days a week, why would she want money? You will be providing their food, nappies, medicines, car seats, toys etc ... so what is it her costs will be? I just find that really insane. I would never dream of taking money from my kids to watch my grandbabies and i have them all the time when I'm not doing anything else.
Granma does not have free time she would be giving up her job to do this hence why she needs to be paid accordingly, she will also be completing all education required to become an educator
Dont let her quit her job for this, especially now of all times.
Use a childcare or daycare, you would never forgive yourself if she quit her job and you or hubby lost your job and couldn’t pay her or didn’t need to use her.
It may also be very hard for her to get another one.
Yes, this is definitely a terrible derision, she should not be leaving her job because you want her to babysit, its ludicrous! Please, don't put your mum in this position , you need to use an approved carer not your mum. She won't qualify anyway as its just your kids. Find another option.
Did you not read the original question this would become her job for the next 5 years to get her to retirement age she is currently doing a very labour intensive job and is wearing herself out however cannot afford to just stop working as she is already living pay check to pay check we are looking at a career change for her so she can calm down instead of working her old bones harder and we cannot find day care!!! We are on every waiting list possible and I cannot afford to not work to look after them but we can afford to pay her full payment with the child care subsidy in place
Before you go and attack someone, how about you stand back and re-read the question you posted. We have no background information apart from scant details you provided. Now you turn on someone for their opinion.
In short, look at other sources. Au pair, nanny etc would be more doable.
Could she move in with you guys?
What's wrong with you woman, none of that informatuon was in your original post at all. We are replying with the information given at hand. You've been given your answer, no she can't be paid a Government subsidy for watching your kids, even if she did all the qualifications , and if there's no other Day Care, then suck it up and move to where there is Day Care, or don't work! What do you expect the advice to be when you never explained your rant above in with your original post?
Yep just recommend a family up roots their wholes lives meaning new house more travel time to both of them to get to there current jobs in order for some people to have more options on day care the could be needing to move 100km. Silly response to being pissed off with someone, I don't even think it was an attack maybe more punctuation needed for the context to be understood but reading between the lines I think they were referring to your suggestion to just use daycare instead when the original post said they were already on waiting list for all that. Anyway peace to all.
It took me the better part of a year just to get my certificate 3 in childcare (and that included 100 hours of unpaid work placement in an actual facility).
It's not just something you can jump online and do overnight!
If my memory serves me right, I'm sure you need cert 4 in order to go into FDC. At the very least you need additional training and qualifications.
You also need to be registered with the council.
You must run the FDC out of your home and your home must meet a very stringent list of safety requirements.
You also must have certain insurances, which is an ongoing expense. You also need police checks, working with vulnerable people cards and that's all quite an expensive initial outlay.
And to add to this, in order to be a financially viable option she'd really need to be running at capacity.
Having only your child in her care a few days a week would not generate enough income for her to be profitable after those expenses, just being profitable isn't enough either, it needs to be a liveable wage.
I'll also say that childcare was physically demanding for me and I was a fit, healthy 19 year old. After working in that industry, I have a dicky shoulder, a bad back and my knees are shot (which I believe if from getting up and down off the floor all day).
If your mum is only a few years away from retirement age, obtaining the necessary qualifications really won't be worth her time, effort or money.