Hi. Recently, very recently, I was with a man who is divorced with the most adorable little girls (outside of my own of course). We'd been together on and off for a year...off due to what has become clear was the influence, guilt and control his ex wife has over him.
I know some of you will say that I'm speculating, but after he called it off this last time, I confronted her. "Why did you confront her?" you may be thinking. When it ended the first time, it was a month after he had all of a sudden moved into my house because he could no longer live with her (long story short - they separated, stayed living together for their children). He'd still been going to counselling with her to make sure they were still keeping things ok for their girls while he was living with me. And during those sessions, she'd always throw out the "I'm afraid I'm going to lose his friendship" card.
They had children, the separation was amicable. Their friendship wasn't going to dissipate, and I'd never made an attempt to cause it to fall apart. It worked for them, and more importantly, their girls.
During the last session, while he was living with me, it supposedly came up that I'd not given him a key (I was home all the time at that stage), there was no storage for his clothes, and he wasn't getting his mail to my house. He hadn't asked for a key, we'd been out shopping for storage, and his mail is not my responsibility.
So skip to now. He's in his own house. We'd gotten back together. I'd been studying. Helped him move in and locate furniture, helped put his girls bedroom together, he'd started hinting to me and my children that we'd get married one day...things were great. Things were great despite the stress of my study and him moving house away from his girls.
Until his daughter's b'day, and his ex looking at us (my children and I) like we were lepers, no hello or anything when we walked in. She made it very obvious we were not welcome. So with me left to sit away from the party, the party he invited us to, the last thing I wanted to hear from my now ex bf was "How's the burger?" when he finally came to talk to me. I said "Yeah, it's great" and told him to go back inside with his family, so he stormed off, said nothing. Not wanting his ex to yet again listen into a private conversation, I had to lean over to him sitting down to ask if he wanted us to leave. We did as he wanted, and left.
So when I confronted his ex, a lot of stuff came up - she said me not giving him a key was abuse despite how short a time we'd been together and him not asking for one, she'd accused me of being abusive when I was asking him if he wanted us to leave even though she couldn't hear what was said, she'd said she didn't think he wanted to be with me despite him hinting at marriage, and she said she'd let him be with someone without trying to control everything but not with me.
I know that unless he stands up to her and stops pandering to her, there's no chance for me.
But my question is, how the hell do you deal with that? And does he have any hope in finding someone that she'll let him be with?
Does he have hope of a future if he has a controlling ex-wife?
Does he have hope of a future if he has a controlling ex-wife?
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Firstly this is not someone I'd get involved with from the get go, because neither of them sound like they are ready to move on.
Separations and divorce take A VERY long time. It's not as simple as making a decision and it's done.
The fact that he was still living under the same roof screams, I'm not ready to start something new. He sounds emotionally immature if he thinks it's as simple as saying it's done. Seriously who starts seeing someone while they are still living with there ex (even if separated)??? Bizarre, rude, and talk about rubbing it in the exes face!
Then he knows things are still awkward between his ex and him (doesn't sound like it's even 12 months since he moved out) and he takes you to his kids birthday party? Who does that?? Anyone with any sense would give it some time before bringing a new partner to there kids birthday party! Did he even give her the heads up before taking you? I'd be furious if it was my ex and he didn't at least give me a warning, and even then I'd tell him not to bring you because it was just too soon.
Honestly he sounds like an insensitive ass (to her and you) and it's all just way too soon for him to be in a relationship. I'd drop him like a hot potato. You deserve someone who is ready for a relationship and is considerate to you and his ex.
Yepp I totally agree. It all sounds a little too weird. Me and my ex were very on/off again for nearly a year and he did live with me while we were separated. He was constantly trying to get back with me and saying things to make me think it might work but was on tinder and talking to a number of girls. Not saying it's the same but you have no idea what was happening in their household, just because he tells you one thing doesn't mean it's true. I would be livid if my ex bought a new gf to my child's party if it hadn't been very long since the separation.im gonna say get out of that situation. He is not ready for a serious relationship. Sounds like you are a rebound I'm afraid.
Nope nope nope ?? ??????????
Leave that toxic situation and don't look back!
Are you serious? You got with a guy still living with his ex? Broken up or not, that's so disrespectful and wrong on his part to his ex. You went to the kids birthday party after a small amount of time being together? I've been divorced 4 years and they have been together 3 and I have never had exs partner at my house. You don't move from living with ex to living with a new woman, he's a man child who can't be alone. She isn't the problem, he is! She has actually acted like any woman in her position would. How could you even consider marriage at this point, he's just divorced, chances are, you are a rebound. Take your blinkers off!!
I should add, she's been in a relationship the entire time with her new partner, and they've been separated for at least 2yrs. She was supposedly his biggest supporter when we got together. I never stayed at his house when she was there, but her partner stayed there when he was there. He'd been sleeping in a single bed in his daughter's room. I kept very respectful of any left over feelings that might be there, and made sure I let him know my boundaries.
Stop making excuses for both of there creepy behaviour!
The entire situation is weird, OFF and loopy.
Run away and have a nice drama free life!
I agree, take it from strangers, this is NOT normal, they are not behaving like 2 people who have amicably moved on from their divorce. Neither are ready to repartner. Dangling the carrot of marriage in front of you and YOUR CHILDREN, wtf, so manipulative and treating you like desperates. So much wrong with this situation, please if you don't see it now, maybe we have opened your eyes up to seeing red flags in the future. Do not let your children get close to him, at least protect their hearts because this is not going to end well.
Tell me what your boundaries are? He breaks up with you, you chase him, he gets back with you. He invites you somewhere he shouldn't and when the shit hits the fan, he asks you and your children to leave, doesn't back you. He lets his ex speak badly to you, allows you and your kids to be ignored, you allow him to move in with you after a short period of time (he uses you because he has nowhere else to go), you allow him into your children's life very early on and allow him to even manipulate them, he talks about details of your relationship with his ex (key).....tell me, what are your boundaries? I don't mean to be harsh but the treatment you are allowing is setting you and your kids up to be treated like a pieces of dirt, you deserve sooooo much better, you are a strong, independent single mum.
You slept over in the marital home when she wasn't there??
That is CREEPY!
Sorry I think you want us to tell you that you will all live happily ever after.
I think this all sounds bizarre. There is no way a guy could have convinced me to sleep over in his ex wives home, wether she had repartnered or not.
I think you need to shake yourself awake. You don't seem to understand how abnormal and creepy ALL the adults in this situation are.
It's fine to be amicable for the sake of your children but he needs to make sure you are comfortable too & if he is not doing or striving to do that, then it's time to move on. You deserve better. This man is conflicted and won't be able to commit to you until he's over his ex, which he obviously isn't.